【键盘侠】独行侠退役24号球衣|认可并敬重伟大 这才是热爱篮球!

[Charania] Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban: "Our organization has decided that the number 24 will never again be worn by a Dallas Maverick.”

湖人传奇球星科比-布莱恩特今早逝世，独行侠老板库班宣布将退役其24号球衣。

“我们已经决定，达拉斯独行侠以后将不再有球员穿24号球衣，”库班说道。

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[–][LAL] Eddie Jones taeem 2841 指标 8小时前

This and the doc rivers interview hit me the hardest. I guess it takes shit like this to make you realize how important the people you think you hate in sports are to your love of the game.

湖人球迷：库班这个决定和里弗斯在采访时的哽咽是最能触动我的。我觉得吧，正是这种事让你知道，那些你平时讨厌的体育明星，在你的偶像眼里是多么地重要。

[–]Celtics ssjgoat 233 指标 7小时前

The sound that he makes at the end of the interview when he says he has to go tell his team to play but he can't.

I felt that all the way down to my soul.

I love you Lakers bro!

凯尔特人球迷：里弗斯采访时哽咽着说他得让队员们提起精神好好比赛，可是他做不到。

这句话直击我灵魂深处。

我爱你，湖人兄弟！

[–][LAL] Eddie Jones taeem 74 指标 7小时前

Yah man fuck... you can just tell how absolutely crushed doc is. I can't even imagine having to go talk to you team after that..

Much love and lets hope we meet in the finals so the Lakers can get Kobe one more ring against his favorite team to beat ;)

湖人球迷：是啊草……你明显能感觉到里弗斯多么崩溃。这事儿之后还得和队员们聊聊，我无法想象那个画面。

希望我们和你凯能在总决赛相遇，这样我湖就能从科比最喜欢击败的对手头上多拿一次总冠军

[–]seymour1 15 指标 5小时前

The NBA really should have cancelled all games today.

联盟今天真的应该取消所有比赛

[–]nadnate 46 指标 7小时前

I only hated Kobe as player because I respected how good he was.

我只讨厌球员时期的科比，因为我对他的优秀相当尊敬。

[–]Lakers justinduane 748 指标 7小时前

Not even the same level but I felt like that when Barkley retired. I always hated him but when he was gone I was like “we need a guy like Barkley back in the game.”

This is just another level of unreal to me. I watched Kobe his entire run and loved it.

湖人球迷：虽说情感不是一个级别的，但是巴克利退役的时候我也是很难受。我总是黑他，不过他退役的时候，我就觉得“我们需要一个巴克利这样的人回来打NBA。”

而科比这事儿我就觉得太假了。我见证了他的整个职业生涯，而且我深爱着这个过程。

[–]Lakers namey___mcnameface 258 指标 6小时前

I watched Kobe his entire run and loved it.

To me this is the only positive thing in this horrible tragedy. We got to see his whole run. Had this happened during his career we'd always have the great "what if" for what he could have accomplished. He gave every ounce of himself and only walked away when he could go no further.

湖人球迷：“我见证了他的整个职业生涯，而且我深爱着这个过程。”

我觉得这就是这起悲剧中唯一的一抹亮色。我们得以见证他的全部篮球生涯。正因如此，我们总会有各种“如果”，去想象他本能取得怎样怎样的成就。他毫无保留地向你我展示了他的全部，然后在无法继续前行的时候，抽身离开。

[–]Spurs Syggie 240 指标 6小时前

I don’t see it that way, I think its a huge negative the fact that in his post NBA career he already had achieved an Academy Award. Who knows what else he would’ve put his mind into? We got robbed, he got robbed of 40 more years of an exemplary life.

马刺球迷：我不这么看，我觉得这还是非常负面的，毕竟他在退出NBA之后已经夺得了奥斯卡奖。谁知道他还会有什么想法呢？我们太亏了，科比被抢走了40多年榜样般的人生。

[–]Pistons Shamrock5 3272 指标 9小时前*

I honestly never expected an individual team to make this gesture -- I kinda figured that if 24 (or 8) was retired, it would be a league-wide decision. Heckuva classy move.

Edit: Forgot Miami did it for Jordan's 23. Still, it's a truly extraordinary thing to do.

活塞球迷：说真的，我从未指望过哪个球队会有独行侠这种单方面举动。以前倒是想过，要是24号（或8号）退役了，那应该是整个联盟的决定。独行侠这个举动太有风度了。

[–]Heat jstarlee 56 指标 8小时前

It's still not positive. Usually brought up as a joke by fans of other teams.

热火球迷：我们当初这事儿也不光彩啊。经常被其他队的球迷拿来开玩笑

[–]NBA srs_house 47 指标 8小时前

Today's the first time I've ever seen people reacting positively to it.

今天是我首次看到大家正面评价热火当初退役乔丹23号这事儿。

[–][UTA] John Stockton Thehealeroftri 737 指标 8小时前

tbh I'm still hoping the whole league does this.

爵士球迷：讲真，我还是希望全联盟都能退役23号

[–]Raptors PoliQU 856 指标 8小时前

I think it’s tough now that Lebron has also gone on to wear it. I think it will come to be similar to soccer, where numbers don’t get retired, but when a player is given a certain number it is quite a big deal. ie Barcelona’s 10, Arsenal’s 14, Man United’s 7.

猛龙球迷：我觉得很难了，毕竟老詹也穿了23号。我觉得球衣号码的意义会趋向足球，虽说号码没有退役，可要是哪个球员被赋予某个特定的号码，那就很了不得。比如巴塞罗那的10号、阿森纳的14号、曼联的7号。

[–]Celtics echoacm 176 指标 8小时前

I fully support this decision by the Mavs, but I think it's important to recognize at the same time that this sub routinely bashes the Heat for retiring Jordan's number

凯尔特人球迷：我完全支持独行侠这次的决定。不过我觉得大家同时也得明白，很多人定期会把热火和乔丹的事儿拿出来喷。

[–]Bulls Bone_Dogg 177 指标 7小时前*

Jordan is still around. The league has never lost such a huge legend before his time like Kobe. I would be completely in favor of a league wide 24 retirement.

公牛球迷：毕竟乔丹还活着嘛。在科比之前，联盟还从未以这样一种方式失去过这么一位传奇人物。要是全联盟退役24号球衣，我完全赞同！

[–]Pacers Shozo 163 指标 8小时前

I still don't think league wide retirement should be a thing. If they are your team, then they should. If other teams want to do it out of respect, that's their choice. The league should not force teams to retire certain number.

步行者球迷：我还是觉得不应该把这事儿上升到全联盟的高度。如果这人是你的主队名宿，那就该退役。如果其他队伍出于尊重也这么做了，那是他们的选择。联盟不该强迫各队退役某个号码。

[–][DAL] J.J. Barea Deathwatch72 151 指标 8小时前

I think Cuban is trying to push the league into doing something similiar, or inspire other teams to do the same. Even if it's not a mandate by the NBA, seeing every team make the independent decision to retire 24 would be an amazing tribute

独行侠球迷：我觉得库班此举是想促成全联盟也采取相似的动作，要不就是鼓励其他队也做同样的事。哪怕NBA不强制这种行为，可要是看到各队都自发决定退役24号，那这个致意就太了不起了。

[–]Jesus166 20 指标 6小时前

I think the West should retire the 24 and the east should retire the 8

我觉得西部球队应该退役24号，东部退役8号

[–]Celtics taco_whisperer 269 指标 9小时前

I wouldn't be surprised if it goes league wide, the league has to do something like this after tragically losing a NBA Mount Rushmore figure

凯尔特人球迷：要是全联盟都退役科比球衣我也不会奇怪，以如此悲剧的方式失去一位篮球总统山级别的人物之后，联盟总得做点啥吧。

[–]Pistons signalflow313 15 指标 6小时前

at the All Star Game, one team should all wear 24 and the other team wears 8

活塞球迷：全明星赛的时候，一个队应该都穿24号。另一队都穿8号

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[–]Lakers kurruchi 3461 指标 7小时前

it still is mental to me that kobe fucking bryant died

我还是很难受，科比居然就特么这么去了

[–]getfuckedrogerstone 1474 指标 6小时前

Cannot believe it. It keeps hitting me every 20-30 minutes.

不敢相信啊。每二三十分钟就难受一次。

[–]Xolotl23 499 指标 6小时前

Fuck man it's hard to focus on my homework. Kobe and Chester really messed up my days when they passed and it surprised me.. never realized how much I was inspired by them

靠，我难以集中精神写作业了。科比和切斯特离世的时候真的意外，我的心情全都毁了……之前真没意识到他们居然能给我如此大的激励。

[–]Shakespeareo 164 指标 6小时前

I’m with you there. I haven’t been hit this hard by a celebrity death since Chester. It seems so surreal.

我也是。自打切斯特离开之后，我就没有为哪个名人的离世如此难受过。太假了

[–]Pistons YpsitheFlintsider 121 指标 5小时前

Literally every time I see or remember that Kobe Bryant died, I'm like wtf Kobe died?

活塞球迷：每次我看到或者是想起科比已经不在了，第一反应就是，我尼玛科比去世了？

[–]dsjunior1388 236 指标 5小时前

It seems impossible that he won't just be there, Courtside, getting older and continuing to mellow out and just be a league grandfather like Magic or Russell.

I've been so curious about his approach to his Hall of Fame speech and now we'll never know.

想想就觉得不可能，他居然不在了，不能出现在场边，不能慢慢变老、像魔术师和拉塞尔一样成为联盟教父级人物。

我一直都好奇他的名人堂演讲会是怎样的，现在呢，咱们永远都不知道了。

[–]magnora7 22 指标 4小时前

I don't even watch basketball ever, but I feel the same way. Just such a prolific person to just randomly die. One of the greats. Rest in peace.

我甚至都没看过篮球，不过我感同身受啊。一个如此有成就的人居然就这么突然地离开了。最伟大的人之一。大家安息吧

[–]Lakers RemyGee 103 指标 4小时前

He was so involved with his daughter’s basketball. She was going to be a star in the WNBA. Kobe was going to be commissioner of the WNBA. So much lost.

湖人球迷：他对自己女儿的篮球培养很是上心。吉安娜以后本来是可以成为WNBA明星的。科比可以成为WNBA的总裁。损失太大了

[–][IND] Travis Best stylozo 29 指标 2小时前

Like the other commentator said, it hits me every 30 minutes and then I also remember that Gigi also passed and it just hits even harder. Such a heartbreaking tragedy. I can’t believe it.

步行者球迷：就像上面那个老哥说的一样，我每30分钟就难受一次，然后就想起吉安娜也死了，这就更难受了。这起悲剧是如此地让人心碎，让我难以接受。

[–]Nuggets Dyvius 20 指标 4小时前

Like, it's one thing if he lived another 40 years and died peacefully in his sleep or something, right? Still a day of mourning and remembering his legend. But when you get to that age, it becomes more expected.

This one's raw and vicious and seemingly unfair. This wasn't some drug addiction taking its toll, it wasn't a disease finally winning, it just...happened out of nowhere. To a 41 year-old father and his daughter (and their friends and colleagues as well). Kobe Bryant and his daughter died in a freak accident. Gone way too soon.

掘金球迷：这么说吧，要是科比再多活40年，然后在睡梦中平静死去之类的，这是一码事，对吧？那样的话，咱们还是会哀悼并想念他的成就。可你到了那个年纪的话，那大家就更有准备啊。

科比现在这种方式就太残酷太不公平了。他不是被毒瘾毁掉人生，不是被疾病击垮，就……这么莫名其妙地走了。这个41岁的父亲和他的女儿（还有他们的朋友和同事）。科比和他女儿是特么死于事故啊，英年早逝。

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[–][GSW] Klay Thompson Xavientt 1245 指标 9小时前

I fuckin love Cuban

勇士球迷：我特么太稀罕库班了！

[–]Mavericks LoyolaProp1 87 指标 8小时前*

I’m shook by this whole thing. Dirk/Kobe/Shaq/Duncan is basketball to me. Kobe was a rookie when I was 12 years old. I grew up envying his greatness and eventually respecting the hell out of the way he was always complimentary about Dirk when most were calling him soft. You don’t expect the characters of your fanhood passing on the to next plain until you’re an old man. This one really hit hard.

独行侠球迷：这整件事都震惊到我了。诺维茨基、科比、奥尼尔和邓肯就是我眼中的篮球。我12岁那年，科比还是个菜鸟。在我成长过程中，一直嫉妒着他的伟大，最终无比尊敬他，因为当初大多数都在说诺维茨基打球软的时候，是科比总是送上赞美。只有等到你年纪大了，才能客观冷静地看待那些球星。科比的离去对我打击真挺大的。

[–]Lakers DJ_27 16 指标 8小时前

Classy move, one I didn't consider. Much respect to Cuban and the Mavs

湖人球迷：独行侠这举动很有风度，我真没想到。向库班和独行侠致以崇高敬意。

[–][LAL] Coby Karl CaptMarvel23 195 指标 9小时前

Mark always really respected his game.

湖人球迷：库班是真的一直在尊重这项运动。

[–][LAL] Kobe Bryant akgb00 152 指标 9小时前

One of the greatest sports team owners

湖人球迷：体育史上最伟大的老板之一

[–][SEA] Rashard Lewis Thebasedgod_lilb 33 指标 8小时前

Next thing to do is to gather the dragon balls and wish Kobe back...

超音速球迷：接下来咱们要做的就是集齐龙珠召唤回科比……

[–][DAL] Steve Nash aceofspadez138 1069 指标 9小时前

Dirk and Kobe had major mutual respect for each other and I know Cubes holds that same respect for Kobe and the Lakers. Dr. Buss was instrumental in making Cubes the owner he is today. Great move by the Mavs, I'm proud of my team.

独行侠球迷：诺维茨基和科比是非常尊重彼此的，我知道，库班对科比和湖人也有着同样的敬意。库班能成为如今这样的老板，巴斯博士起到了很关键的作用。咱们这个举动很棒，我为之骄傲。

[–][LAL] Steve Nash Dropdat87 3505 指标 8小时前

Did you see Lukas tweets? He just got pics with Kobe’s daughter. It’s all so sad

湖人球迷：你们看到东契奇推特了吗？他把头像换成了科比和他女儿的照片。这一切都太难受了

[–]Cavaliers StKd0t 2397 指标 8小时前

And Trae Young too. He was apparently her favorite player

骑士球迷：还有吹羊啊。他是吉安娜的最喜欢的球员。

[–]Supersonics ThisIsntRael 116 指标 7小时前

That one ended me. Mamba has such a genuine smile in those pics. Hes seeing his daughter meet the player she looked up to, and probably remembers what that meant for him when he met his heroes.

Say hi to mac miller for us man. We miss you Kobe

超音速球迷：看到这我就受不了了。科比在那些照片上的笑容是如此的纯真，他看着自己的女儿见到她仰慕的球员，或许也会想起自己当初见到偶像时的意义。

替我们向Mac Miller（已故说唱歌手，18年突然离世）问好吧。我们想你啊，科比。

[–]double_fisted_churro 17 指标 7小时前

Stop it now I’m crying again

别说了，我又要哭了

[–]SirBubbles_alot 151 指标 7小时前

Trae Young personally worked with Kobe at his camp over the summer

吹羊去年夏天还在训练营里和科比合作过

[–][UTA] John Stockton Thehealeroftri 1988 指标 7小时前

Wore #8 tonight and got 45 points and a 20 point win.

爵士球迷：他今晚身着8号球衣，拿到45分，率队赢了20分

[–]T1000runner 21 指标 5小时前

Him and Booker both shot 24 FGs each, combined for 24 FGs made, and their 45 & 36 points combined to 81, while both picking up 8 rebounds each.

他和布克今天都出手了24次，一起命中了24球，而且他俩一个45分、一个36分，加起来81分。而且都拿到了8个篮板

[–]Lakers awkotacos 1070 指标 7小时前

He wore #8 only for the 8 second violation. He switched back to #11 after that

湖人球迷：吹羊穿8号球衣就是为了8秒后场违例。之后他就换回11号了

[–]Lakers LeBronFanSinceJuly 1070 指标 7小时前

So he wore two Numbers...Just like Kobe...aw fuck im crying again.

湖人球迷：所以他是穿了两个号码咯……就和科比一样……靠，我要哭了

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[–]Spurs GGezpzMuppy 582 指标 9小时前

I feel even though the Lakers Spurs and Mavs went at it hard, during that time, there never was any hostility just respect for each other, this proves it.

马刺球迷：我觉得吧，当年湖人、马刺和独行侠针锋相对的时候，彼此间也从未有过真正的敌意，只有敬意。库班这事儿就证明了这一点

[–]Lakers ymetwaly53 59 指标 8小时前

True. We’ve always been rivals but I never had any hate for any Spurs players, fans, or coaches. Our rivalries started and ended on the court.

湖人球迷：确实。我们一直是对手，不过我从未讨厌过马刺球员、球迷和教练。我们的敌对仅限于球场上。

[–]Mavericks warpedspoon 146 指标 8小时前

it's crazy that the Mavs and Lakers only met in the playoffs once during the 00s to early 10s

独行侠球迷：想想也是离谱，21世纪前十几年，独行侠和湖人居然只在季后赛碰过一次。

[–]Lakers MMDroxy 3906 指标 9小时前

Nothing but respect for Mark Cuban and the Dallas Mavericks organization. This is the ultimate gesture.

湖人球迷：对库班和独行侠只有敬意。这是终极表态啊

[–][LAL] Alex Caruso SDas_ 997 指标 9小时前

I hope this catches on.

湖人球迷：希望这股风潮能跟上

[–]Lakers mavropanos27 627 指标 9小时前

Which current players wear 24? Might be difficult to retire it midseason.

湖人球迷：现役哪个球员穿着24号？赛季中退役的话也许会很难

[–]Lakers CaCHooKaMan 964 指标 9小时前

Kent Bazemore POR

Khem Birch ORL

Dillon Brooks MEM

Pat Connaughton MIL

Bruno Fernando ATL

Buddy Hield SAC

Alize Johnson IND

Lauri Markkanen CHI

Garrison Mathews WAS

Miye Oni UTA

Mason Plumlee DEN

Norman Powell TOR

湖人球迷：开拓者的贝兹莫尔、魔术的肯-伯奇、灰熊的狄龙-布鲁克斯、雄鹿的康诺顿、老鹰的费尔南多、国王的希尔德、步行者的约翰逊、公牛的马尔卡宁、奇才的马修斯、爵士的米耶-奥尼、掘金的普拉姆利和猛龙的鲍威尔

[–][POR] Rudy Fernandez spittafan 266 指标 9小时前

Bazemore is on the kings

开拓者球迷：贝兹莫尔现在去国王了

[–]Kings jiggamanjr 255 指标 8小时前

And wearing #26

国王球迷：而且穿着26号

[–]Longjumping-Muffin 103 指标 8小时前*

Wonder how many of those guys wear that number because of Kobe (edit: by this I mean I expect most of them do)

I am sure they would have the option to continue wearing it if they so chose.. but I wonder how many would choose to keep wearing it.

我倒想知道，上面这些球员里，有多少人穿24号是因为科比（我猜大部分是）

要是他们是因为科比而选择24号的话，那应该是有继续穿的选择权……不过我好奇的是，有几个人真会选择继续穿呢

[–]Serbia MarginalSalmon 82 指标 8小时前

Buddy does

塞尔维亚球迷：希尔德就是因为科比选的24号

[–]DWACTEAM 61 指标 8小时前

I know Norm said he does

鲍威尔也是，他说过

[–]Raptors Toolshed462 50 指标 8小时前

That makes a lot of sense. I never knew that’s why he wore 24 but he’s a California kid that played for UCLA, so I’m sure he idolized Kobe growing up.

猛龙球迷：这就说得通了。以前还真不知道他为啥穿24号，不过他是在加州出生的，而且为UCLA打过球。所以现在可以确定他童年的偶像是科比了。

[–][LAL] Trevor Ariza unbreaKwOw 625 指标 9小时前

I don't think any of those players would have an issue with relinquishing the number. They most likely chose the number because of their admiration for Kobe.

湖人球迷：我觉得吧，要是让这些球员放弃24号，他们都会同意的。他们大多数人选择24，很可能就是因为对科比的欣赏。

[–]Lakers RedditTekUser 36 指标 9小时前

I am going to miss Kobe’s Detail. I was so happy he got very involved in the game again after retirement via Detail. Every hour I am remembering something I am going to miss.

湖人球迷：我会想念科比的《细节》的。他退役之后还能通过这个节目参与篮球，我是很开心的。每隔一小时我都会想起点啥，就会想念科比。

[–]Lakers ymetwaly53 62 指标 8小时前

I’ve canceled all my plans for the day and have been drinking all day. Thought it would numb the pain. It doesn’t.

湖人球迷：我已经取消了今天所有的安排，喝了一天的酒。我想借此麻痹痛苦，可是并不能

[–]IBetThisIsTakenToo 39 指标 7小时前

Drinking's only really fun when you're doing something fun. If you're wallowing in sadness, it'll only make you wallow deeper.

只有当你开心的时候，喝酒才会真的让你开心。如果你沉浸在悲痛中，那酒精只会让你更难受。